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in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leveraged to be used. >> he's talking about bipartisan, but you would agree that he's also playing politics here or no? >> i'm not going to second-guess what the president, his motives and everything. i can tell you, there's a lot of democrats who believe we need to cut spending also. and we need to get our house financially in order. with that, we're hoping it happens sooner than later. i've always been for the bowles/simpson approach, which was a big fix, so we don't go through these crises every two or three months. it's ridiculous. we've kicked the can so much, there's nothing left. we've got to come to grips and sit down and work through this. it's taken longer than needed. that's why congress -- it's really broken in washington. it's really what no labels and why jon and i are here. we're looking for solutions and a venue that we can sit down and work out our differences. and this is the one i think works well. >> jon huntsman, we're already hearing this discussion about
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